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Major new development in Windows 98 RAM memory capability patch has been discovered!
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98 Guy
2014-05-15 13:14:31 UTC
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It appears that some combination of a Windows-98 hot-fix and some
hacking at least 4 years ago, possibly by some Germans, has resulted in
a very simple set of 2 files that can allow Windows 98 to use up to 4 gb
of ram.

As time goes on we'll learn more about how this patch originated, but it
seems to have been circulating in German-language windows forums up
until now.

Thanks to Dencorso and his obtuse and irrational censorship as he lords
over the Windows-98 Forums at MSFN.org, he indicated that such a German
patch existed, and he labeled it as "warez". I then began a discussion
on "FoolsDesign.org" and the location of the patch files was posted
thanks to a user there. That thread can be found here:

http://www.foolsdesign.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=607

Once Dencorso found out about that thread, he removed his own MSFN post
where he described his censorship of the topic. He's so anal he even
censored himself!

Why on earth those moderators at MSFN think that Microsoft is in any way
concerned about Windows 9x today defies explanation. They are their own
worst enemies when it comes to helping advance and grow the Windows
9x/me enthusiast community. Their censorship efforts do nothing but
instill a culture of fear and intimidation and diminish the community at
MSFN. Hopefully more enthusiasts and win-98 users will discover the
free and uncensored windows 98 usenet groups and also the software forum
at foolsdesign.org.

Are you reading this Dencorso?

Will you and your other moderators change your ways and allow more free
and open discussion about how to advance Windows 9x/me - Microsoft be
damned?

Here is a link to the new VMM32.vxd and VMM.vxd files that allow Windows
98 to use all available ram on any motherboard you have, up to 4 gb:

http://www.freora.de/index.php?option=com_docman&task=license_result&gid=3&bid=3&Itemid=52

Scroll down to the last item, which is:

4 GB Hauptspeicher für WIN 98SE ( mit vmm98sed.zip )hot!

But don't click on it. Instead, click on the small little "Download"
button right beside the "Details" button.

What you will download is Vmm98sed.zip (about 1mb in size). When you
unpack it, you will find a reproduction of the Windows directory tree
that helps tell you where to put these files.

Inside WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ you will find VMM32.VXD and you will copy that
file to your own WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory, over-writing the existing
file which you should first rename to VMM32.vxd.old.

You will also see a subdirectory called VMM32 which contains VMM.VXD
(which you should copy to your WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VMM32\ directory, and
there will be no pre-existing file with that name.

There is some indicatation that a file called ENABLE.VXD should also be
placed in the WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VMM32\ directory. That file is not
normally found on win-9x systems, but it is on the win-98 CD. Here is a
link to that file:

http://filepost.com/files/98e56ddd/ENABLE.VXD/

The two files VMM32.VXD and VMM.VXD seem to have been in circulation
since January 2010 because they were submitted to virustotal.com on that
date for malware analysis. That was the first and only time they have
been seen by Virustotal until I submitted them yesterday. The scan 4
years ago was negative, and so was my scan, so they are clean as far as
53 Anti-virus programs are concerned.

I have varified that they work, as I have 2 gb ram on my system now and
Windows System Properties shows 2046 mb available memory.

Any questions? Comments?

Post them! No censorship here!
Axel Berger
2014-05-15 16:33:04 UTC
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Post by 98 Guy
Inside WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ you will find VMM32.VXD and you will copy that
file to your own WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory, over-writing the existing
file which you should first rename to VMM32.vxd.old.
That vmm32.vxd carries a date of 2002-10-12 while my existing one is
newer, from 2006-10-26. I don't know where that came from. Should I
still risk overwriting it?

Axel
Computer Nerd Kev
2014-05-15 22:58:00 UTC
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Post by Axel Berger
Post by 98 Guy
Inside WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ you will find VMM32.VXD and you will copy that
file to your own WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory, over-writing the existing
file which you should first rename to VMM32.vxd.old.
That vmm32.vxd carries a date of 2002-10-12 while my existing one is
newer, from 2006-10-26. I don't know where that came from. Should I
still risk overwriting it?
I'd compare the exact file sizes. If the same, it's almost a given that
the files are too. If not, it depends whether you have any problems with
what you've got.
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Auric__
2014-05-16 04:01:34 UTC
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In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion Axel Berger
Post by Axel Berger
Post by 98 Guy
Inside WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ you will find VMM32.VXD and you will copy that
file to your own WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory, over-writing the existing
file which you should first rename to VMM32.vxd.old.
That vmm32.vxd carries a date of 2002-10-12 while my existing one is
newer, from 2006-10-26. I don't know where that came from. Should I
still risk overwriting it?
I'd compare the exact file sizes. If the same, it's almost a given that
the files are too. If not, it depends whether you have any problems with
what you've got.
Better way to compare is to enter this from the command prompt:

fc /b vmm32.vxd vmm32.new

(Replace the file names with the correct ones, of course.) If it tells you
anything other than "no differences encountered" then they are not the same.
Simple.
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98 Guy
2014-05-16 04:15:45 UTC
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Post by Auric__
Post by Computer Nerd Kev
Post by Axel Berger
That vmm32.vxd carries a date of 2002-10-12 while my existing
one is newer, from 2006-10-26. I don't know where that came
from. Should I still risk overwriting it?
I'd compare the exact file sizes. If the same, it's almost a
given that the files are too. If not, it depends whether you
have any problems with what you've got.
fc /b vmm32.vxd vmm32.new
(Replace the file names with the correct ones, of course.)
What on earth are you people blathering about?

We're talking about vmm32.vxd.

It's a file that is dynamically created by windows when windows is
installed and also when new hardware is detected. It's pointless to
compare file-size and file-date between two different vmm32.vxd files.

There is a default or initial vmm32.vxd that is on the windows 98 CD,
and that is used initially but it will not remain static during the
install process.

The modded version has some key bytes changed, so of course it will not
compare with the original CD version.

You will note that you won't see a Version tab when you right-click on
vmm32.vxd and select properties.
Axel Berger
2014-05-16 10:36:13 UTC
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Post by 98 Guy
It's a file that is dynamically created by windows when windows is
installed and also when new hardware is detected. It's pointless to
compare file-size and file-date between two different vmm32.vxd files.
If that's so, don't I lose all the entries Windows has already made
there?

Axel
98 Guy
2014-05-16 12:50:56 UTC
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Post by Axel Berger
Post by 98 Guy
It's a file that is dynamically created by windows when windows is
installed and also when new hardware is detected. It's pointless
to compare file-size and file-date between two different vmm32.vxd
files.
If that's so, don't I lose all the entries Windows has already made
there?
There is no modification or interference with your registry in relation
to changing the vmm32.vxd file.

I *believe* that when win-98 is first installed, it uses the default
vmm32.vxd as-is, and any additional virtual device drivers that are
specific to your system are placed in the /vmm directory and are not
incorporated into the default vmm32.vxd file. But under some
circumstances Win-98 can rebuild vmm32.vxd and incorporate those extra
.vxd files from the /vmm directory, and that's why you'd end up with a
different vmm32.vxd file than the default version from the CD.

For example, the default VMM32.VXD file on the win-98se CD is 464 kb in
size, but my actual VMM32.VXD in c:\windows\system was 907 kb before I
renamed it and replaced it with the modified file, which is 903 kb in
size.

Again remember that if you first rename your existing VMM32.vxd (to,
say, VMM32.vx_ or VMM32.vxd.old) and then copy the new VMM32.vxd to
c:\windows\system (and also copy the file vmm.vxd to
c:\windows\system\vmm32) and if Windows doesn't boot, then simply
re-start in DOS and restore your original vmm32.vxd (and delete the
vmm.vxd that you put in c:\windows\system\vmm32).

Here's more info about VMM32.VXD

=========================
Win9x installation of VMM32.VxD

It is accepted that VMM32.VxD is initially a basic file which is built
up with additional VxDs (required specifically by that PC's own
components) during Win98+ installation. Those additional VxDs are then
accessed from within VMM32.VxD.

However that initial VMM32.VxD file is not an empty skeleton waiting to
be filled. It is a substantial 475,084 bytes on the CDs of both Win98
(Win98_48.cab) and Win98SE (Win98_54.cab). This is the size prior to
installation. It contains many components that will be used by Win9x and
is added to at the time of Win98, 98SE, or ME installation.

After Win9x installation, any additionally installed VxDs will be placed
in \Windows\System\VMM32. These will take priority over any previous VxD
within VMM32.VxD. The size of VMM32.VxD in the Windows\System directory
after installation will vary from system to system. It will now be
substantially (perhaps twice) larger than the CD version and should
carry the date of your last installation of Win9x. The increased size is
partly the result of specific VxDs being added during Win9x
installation.

To view the contents of the 'new' VMM32.VxD run RegEdit and go to the
Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control/VMM32Files
where the right pane shows all the files that comprise VMM32.VxD.

It is now said that ALL the VxDs required for your own system will be
present, though you could check your own Registry just to make sure.

http://www.thpc.info/upd/vmm32.html
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Axel Berger
2014-05-16 16:03:45 UTC
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the default VMM32.VXD file on the win-98se CD is 464 kb in size,
but my actual VMM32.VXD in c:\windows\system was 907 kb before I
renamed it and replaced it with the modified file, which is 903 kb
in size.
This sounds exactly similar to my case, so now I'll go ahead and do it.

Danke
Axel
Computer Nerd Kev
2014-05-16 23:47:49 UTC
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Post by 98 Guy
What on earth are you people blathering about?
We're talking about vmm32.vxd.
It's a file that is dynamically created by windows when windows is
installed and also when new hardware is detected. It's pointless to
compare file-size and file-date between two different vmm32.vxd files.
Ah OK, my mistake. I'm just one of those wierd guys who runs w98 on PCs
(well, a PC) from around 1998, so I haven't needed to look that deeply into
these aspects of the inner workings.


By the way, to those reading, 98guy posted this topic in the MSDOS newsgroups
(eg. comp.os.msdos.misc) too, so there is some more discussion to look at
there as well.
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98 Guy
2014-05-15 23:09:07 UTC
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Post by Axel Berger
That vmm32.vxd carries a date of 2002-10-12 while my existing one
is newer, from 2006-10-26. I don't know where that came from.
Should I still risk overwriting it?
Rename your existing file (put .old at the end). You can rename the
file while running windows (sometimes the OS locks your access to system
files, but not in this case).
Hot-Text
2014-05-16 01:35:40 UTC
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"Axel Berger" <***@Gmx.De> wrote in message news:***@Gmx.De...
| 98 Guy wrote:
| > Inside WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ you will find VMM32.VXD and you will copy that
| > file to your own WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory, over-writing the existing
| > file which you should first rename to VMM32.vxd.old.
|
| That vmm32.vxd carries a date of 2002-10-12 while my existing one is
| newer, from 2006-10-26. I don't know where that came from. Should I
| still risk overwriting it?


Axel
I have not Test it On a windws 98 se
i can give you a good Answer by:
May 19, 2014
98 Guy
2014-05-16 02:11:19 UTC
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Axel
I have not Test it On a windws 98 se
May 19, 2014
What if he doesn't read alt.windows98?

Why did you remove the other 2 groups in your reply?
Hot-Text
2014-05-17 01:20:56 UTC
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"98 Guy" <"98"@Guy. com> wrote in message news:ll3s2f$mm1$***@speranza.aioe.org...
| Hot-Text wrote:
| > Axel
| > I have not Test it On a windws 98 se
| > i can give you a good Answer by:
| > May 19, 2014
|
| What if he doesn't read alt.windows98?
| Why did you remove the other 2 groups in your reply?

news.aioe.org
Say only One Group at Time

So be a pal and post to them
98 Guy
2014-05-17 04:01:56 UTC
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Post by Hot-Text
| What if he doesn't read alt.windows98?
| Why did you remove the other 2 groups in your reply?
news.aioe.org
Say only One Group at Time
I'm using AIOE. It allows 3 groups - not one.
Hot-Text
2014-05-18 04:37:12 UTC
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"98 Guy" <"98"@Guy. com> wrote in message news:ll6n0t$97e$***@speranza.aioe.org...
| Hot-Text wrote:
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| > | What if he doesn't read alt.windows98?
| > | Why did you remove the other 2 groups in your reply?
| >
| > news.aioe.org
| > Say only One Group at Time
|
| I'm using AIOE. It allows 3 groups - not one.

That because thay like you
For the NewsMaster will not let me
if you have time Ask AIOE why thay make
MyNews Cleints do Post only To one group

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Hot-Text
2014-05-18 12:22:00 UTC
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Post by Hot-Text
| > | What if he doesn't read alt.windows98?
| > | Why did you remove the other 2 groups in your reply?
| >
| > news.aioe.org
| > Say only One Group at Time
|
| I'm using AIOE. It allows 3 groups - not one.
That because thay like you
For the NewsMaster will not let me
if you have time Ask AIOE why thay make
MyNews Cleints do Post only To one group
This is a cross-posting test.

Please ignore.

(98 Guy, posting as Hot-Text)
Post by Hot-Text
Ask AIOE why thay make MyNews Cleints do Post only To one group
BTW, if this works, then if you really are being prevented from
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2014-05-18 16:53:56 UTC
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