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Patch needed for USB hard drive.
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Ben Fullerton
2009-07-04 00:48:31 UTC
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Some time ago I read about a patch for W98-SE that would allow me to use
my two USB hard drive "backup system" units.

I downloaded the info for getting the patch (NO LONGER AVAILABLE from
Microsoft).

Could someone here either repeat the source information? or, even better,
e-mail a copy of the patch to me?

Question - if I give my e-mail address here, how secure is it, if at all,
from another big batch of spammers??

Ben
98 Guy
2009-07-04 02:26:19 UTC
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Post by Ben Fullerton
Some time ago I read about a patch for W98-SE that would allow
me to use my two USB hard drive "backup system" units.
USB drives are lame.

Be a real man and use a screwdriver to open your PC and connect a real
hard drive to your PC.

Screw the USB.

USB drives are for techno-retards.
Ben Fullerton
2009-07-05 01:41:05 UTC
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98 Guy (***@Guy.com) wrote:
: Ben Fullerton wrote:
:
: > Some time ago I read about a patch for W98-SE that would allow
: > me to use my two USB hard drive "backup system" units.

: USB drives are lame.

: Be a real man and use a screwdriver to open your PC and connect a real
: hard drive to your PC.

: Screw the USB.

: USB drives are for techno-retards.

I already have two internal hard drives, a CD burner, and an adapter rack
for quick change drawer mounted (internal connection) hard drives - so
there is no room for another using the standard installation!

Experts tell me that FLASH CARDS are not reliable for long term storage (I
have a universal USB card reader) and I find the bigger hard drives to be
both cumbersome and lack security - as they are always 'connected' and
available to any intelligent hacker.

The security of USB devices (just "eject" the link and pull the connector)
proves to be much more secure and satisfactory.

..... but maybe you do not understand how to keep private data absolutely
secure [disconnect it before making a connection to the internet] or do
not care who reads your private records.

Or maybe you do not have a clue about the answer to my question .... or
just like to try to insult people with a lame response.

I hope you are not typical of this newsgroup reader. Earlier visits often
resulted in good information from some of those who do know the answers.

Have a good day. :-)


Ben
98 Guy
2009-07-05 02:16:31 UTC
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Post by Ben Fullerton
: USB drives are lame.
: Be a real man and use a screwdriver to open your PC and connect a real
: hard drive to your PC.
I already have two internal hard drives, a CD burner, and an
adapter rack for quick change drawer mounted (internal
connection) hard drives - so there is no room for another
using the standard installation!
Your existing drives are too small.

The answer is to buy one or two larger drives and clone your existing
drives to them.

Problem solved. No need for USB drive.
Post by Ben Fullerton
Experts tell me that FLASH CARDS are not reliable for long
term storage
When did we start talking about flash memory?

Flash memory is slow and expensive and it does wear out (it has a
limited lifespan when it comes to over-writing).
Post by Ben Fullerton
and I find the bigger hard drives to be both cumbersome
and lack security - as they are always 'connected' and
available to any intelligent hacker.
You are nuts. If you are using windows 98 (and I assume you are), then
you should be aware that win-98 is much LESS vulnerable to remote access
and internet "remote control" compared to win2k, XP, or any NT-based OS.

If you have this constant security fear, then you have bigger problems
than dealing with USB drives.
Post by Ben Fullerton
The security of USB devices (just "eject" the link and pull
the connector) proves to be much more secure and satisfactory.
SATA drives are hot swappable and can be connected and disconnected to a
system just as easily.
Post by Ben Fullerton
..... but maybe you do not understand how to keep private data
absolutely secure [disconnect it before making a connection to
the internet] or do not care who reads your private records.
You are delusional. Your private records are of absolutely no
importance to anyone else.

If you fear so much for the security of your data, then why do you allow
your PC to be connected to the internet?

Your fears are over-blown.

Even the most sophisticated trojan or bot-software is not capable of
scanning the files on a PC and be able to detect useful information
beyond recognizing e-mail addresses.

User names and passwords are only detectible via key-logging.

If you had your entire financial portfolio in an excel spreadsheet,
including account numbers and financial institutions, a trojan would not
be able to understand the information in the file and communicate it to
a bot-master.
Know1
2009-07-04 05:22:08 UTC
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Post by Ben Fullerton
Some time ago I read about a patch for W98-SE that would allow me to use
my two USB hard drive "backup system" units.
I downloaded the info for getting the patch (NO LONGER AVAILABLE from
Microsoft).
Could someone here either repeat the source information? or, even better,
e-mail a copy of the patch to me?
Question - if I give my e-mail address here, how secure is it, if at all,
from another big batch of spammers??
Ben
http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/win98se-usb-mass-storage-drivers.php
Steven Saunderson
2009-07-05 06:54:39 UTC
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Post by Ben Fullerton
Some time ago I read about a patch for W98-SE that would allow me to use
my two USB hard drive "backup system" units.
The generic driver I use is JDUSBMS. I've uploaded the zip file to
http://phelum.net/files/USB_Mass_Storage.zip. This works with flash
drives I've tried.
Post by Ben Fullerton
Question - if I give my e-mail address here, how secure is it, if at all,
from another big batch of spammers??
Any address here will be harvested. If you have to post an address use
a temporary one that you can later drop.

Cheers,
--
Steven
Howard
2009-07-06 16:53:03 UTC
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Just to say a BIG "thank you" to Steven for providing the USB Mass Storage
Driver.

I've been tearing my hair out for months trying to get Windows 98SE to
recognise an Integral 4GB flash drive. None of the drivers that Integral
claimed should work were recognised. Previously, several other
manufacturers' flash drives had been fine, happily working with the makers'
Win98 drivers... but the Integral one proved to be a dead loss!

The JDUSBMS driver has worked a treat. So - again - thanks Steven for
taking the time and trouble to advise.

Howard
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Post by Steven Saunderson
Post by Ben Fullerton
Some time ago I read about a patch for W98-SE that would allow me to use
my two USB hard drive "backup system" units.
The generic driver I use is JDUSBMS. I've uploaded the zip file to
http://phelum.net/files/USB_Mass_Storage.zip. This works with flash
drives I've tried.
Steven Saunderson
2009-07-07 07:26:03 UTC
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:53:03 +0100, "Howard"
Post by Howard
Just to say a BIG "thank you" to Steven for providing the USB Mass Storage
Driver.
Thanks for the feedback. Since my post I tried the driver with my
external hard drive. Win98 doesn't see it because the partition is NTFS
but my partitioning program can see the MBR so it looks like the driver
will work.

Cheers
--
Steven
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