XviD codec for W98 and Media Player Classic.

[98 Guy]

I am not changing to another player.

Why so intransigent?

Why don't you try VLC?

[Lostgallifreyan]

Post by 98 Guy

I am not changing to another player.

Why so intransigent?
Why don't you try VLC?

I said very clearly what my intentions are, and the purpose. I will not
discuss other people's opinions unless they relate usefully to that.

[Auric__]

Post by Lostgallifreyan

Post by 98 Guy

I am not changing to another player.

Why so intransigent?
Why don't you try VLC?

I said very clearly what my intentions are, and the purpose. I will not
discuss other people's opinions unless they relate usefully to that.

(I don't see the original post, so I'm replying here. Shrug.)

Try codecs.com. If you grab the K-Lite Codec Pack, you'll get pretty much
every codec ever created for any purpose. (I exaggerate, but still...) This
file:

ftp://mail.rax.ru/pub/soft/multimedia/codec/K-Lite_Codec_Pack_880_Mega.exe

...is what I'm using. 21,734 KB; dated 5/17/2012. (That file is what
codecs.com links to, btw; it's not just some random site.)

If you want something else, just browse through that ftp directory. Several
other things available (including smaller, less-inclusive versions of K-
Lite).

[Lostgallifreyan]

Post by Auric__
ftp://mail.rax.ru/pub/soft/multimedia/codec/K-Lite_Codec_Pack_880_Mega.
exe

It's not for W98, the installer gives the usual 'newer version of Windows'
demand. Any way to crack it open for manual extraction and Regsvr32 install
of specific parts?

[Lostgallifreyan]

Post by Auric__
If you want something else, just browse through that ftp directory.
Several other things available (including smaller, less-inclusive
versions of K- Lite).

Nice small program there, finds installed codecs, made by the same person who
made NirCmd I think. There's a CCCP package there, but same applies, I need
to open packages manually to see separate AX files and try manual install.

The main problem with packs is that while they are aimed at fixing the codec
equivalent of DLL hell, the difference can often be reduced to that between
hell we can control, and hell we cannot. At least separate files give us a
fighting chance. There's a good chance that they run on W98 too, whether the
installer thinks so or not.

[98 Guy]

The K-Lite Codec Pack version was version 345 (3.4.5.0) (for Win98),
and when I select properties on its ffdshow.ax file, it shows
version 1.00.3.1464, build date 05/09/2007, although the ax file
date in explorer is 9/10/2007.

I have version 1.0.5.2427 of ffdshow.ax, with a build-date of 05/01/2009
on the win-98 system I'm typing this post on.

[Lostgallifreyan]

Post by 98 Guy

The K-Lite Codec Pack version was version 345 (3.4.5.0) (for Win98),
and when I select properties on its ffdshow.ax file, it shows
version 1.00.3.1464, build date 05/09/2007, although the ax file
date in explorer is 9/10/2007.

I have version 1.0.5.2427 of ffdshow.ax, with a build-date of 05/01/2009
on the win-98 system I'm typing this post on.

With or without KernelEx? :) I'll look at that though. It may even be
possible to compile ffdshow with GCC on W98, but it may be harder to figure
out all the detail needed to do that, than to find a compile that already
works.

Bill, I found MP4 playable if I also added a MP4splitter.ax file, apparently
from Gabest.org. Haven't yet got WMV working, but I do have separate codecs
for that anyway. FLV would be nice...

What I'm basically after now is a set-and-forget codec setup. So long as it
lets me use MPC which I prefer, and will co-operate to play the formats I
use, and lets me do that without having to think about it for another five
years, I'll get by. It took awhile for the dust to settle in the codec wars,
but it looks now like there isn't much to choose from other than finding the
latest one that works. (Various reports say that stuff doesn't always stay
working though, so once I have one that does, I'll stay put and live with it
rather than agonise over trying to keep up with stuff I can't expect to
control.)

[Lostgallifreyan]

Post by 98 Guy

The K-Lite Codec Pack version was version 345 (3.4.5.0) (for Win98),
and when I select properties on its ffdshow.ax file, it shows
version 1.00.3.1464, build date 05/09/2007, although the ax file
date in explorer is 9/10/2007.

I have version 1.0.5.2427 of ffdshow.ax, with a build-date of 05/01/2009
on the win-98 system I'm typing this post on.

I think I posted this earlier, but my version is
ffdshow_rev2322_20081114_clsid.exe, somewhere between those two.

I think after W9X support was dropped, it was put back, but some people chose
to ignore than and compiled it on WXP, and FOR WXP, but others may have
observed the intent to retain the support (last official log entry states
that it was reinstated, as I quoted in a post earlier. So there may be some
very recent ones that work fine, even without KernelEx to get them
installed.)

[Lostgallifreyan]

Post by Lostgallifreyan
I think I posted this earlier, but my version is
ffdshow_rev2322_20081114_clsid.exe, somewhere between those two.

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/105936-last-versions-of-software-for-windows-98se/page__st__322

First post there says mine is latest official build, but I doubt that,
because the history file said nothing about that for 2322, and even
if W9X support were dropped, it isn't the first time it was put back.
All the reports of it being dropped date earlier than reports saying
it works.

I'm also suspicious of a pattern of version numbers that appears to have
taken from some time after late 2005 (year) to progress to 2232 three
years later, and 4453 as curent milestone. There are more versions of
ffdshow than DAYS in those few years. No-one can nail down any kind of
definitive state of release in a development like that. Even a mad CVS
releasing nightly builds without a day's break in twelve years can't
release as many builds as there are of ffdshow in just seven years.

[98 Guy]

Post by Lostgallifreyan

Post by 98 Guy
I have version 1.0.5.2427 of ffdshow.ax

With or without KernelEx? :)

My system(s) have Kex, but I have no idea if it's needed for that
version of the K-lite codec pack.

The K-lite that I have, I installed in Feb 2010. It includes
mediaplayer classic (version 6.4.9.0, looks like file-date March 20 /
2006).

FFDshow files seem to date mostly between nov/dec 2008 and jan 2009.

Looks like I installed it from a file called klite285.exe, which I don't
know off-hand where I got it from, but it looks like this link will give
you a nice selection of choices:

http://alteversion.de/k-lite/

[Lostgallifreyan]

Post by 98 Guy

Post by Lostgallifreyan

Post by 98 Guy
I have version 1.0.5.2427 of ffdshow.ax

With or without KernelEx? :)

My system(s) have Kex, but I have no idea if it's needed for that
version of the K-lite codec pack.
The K-lite that I have, I installed in Feb 2010. It includes
mediaplayer classic (version 6.4.9.0, looks like file-date March 20 /
2006).
FFDshow files seem to date mostly between nov/dec 2008 and jan 2009.
Looks like I installed it from a file called klite285.exe, which I don't
know off-hand where I got it from, but it looks like this link will give
http://alteversion.de/k-lite/

Thanks. Related to the ffdshow.ax you have, I found that the one I have seems
to be the latest known to work without problems, but there might be some
leeway. There is another, dated just ten days later, that will start to
install, but fail to register ffdshow.ax, and a manual attempt with regsvr32
fails too. Slightly later again, anmd they start saying that the one that
fails is the last to succeed.

My guess is that self registry fails in later builds, but someone
reconstructed the registry entries needed, from a different OS, and used
those to regiter the version you have when in W9X. Did you see anything that
might indicate that they'd do this?

I read that ffdshow does not include splitters, and K-Lite does, amongt other
things, so I will check it out because it seems that interoperability was a
main aim for them, so they might have taken ffdshow compatibility a lot
further. Apparently all main branch compiling was done with GCC as I hoped,
but I don't know enough to explore that usefully. I guess the K-Lite people
may have compiled a modified source anyway.

CCCP is another possible source, but the one I tried won't install. I'll try
your link to find the latest that works. In the main ffdshow branch, it looks
like ffdshow_rev2322_20081114_clsid.exe is as definitive as it gets, given
that it starts breaking W9X compatibility just ten days later.

[Lostgallifreyan]

Post by 98 Guy
http://alteversion.de/k-lite/

I checked 288 from that list to see if anything beyond yours installed. it
did, but the ffdshow.ax is older, by about nine months. I did find an
FLVsplitter.ax in it though! First time for me. It works, not every file (is
stream type dependent), but enough that I may be able to play all formats I
need in one player. Fullscreen FLV is also possible in MPC, the standalone
FLVplayer, though efficient, could never do that fluently.

I might find a K-lite that fits better, but if not, then
ffdshow_rev2322_20081114_clsid.exe plus a few files pulled from K-Lite should
allow nearly everything on W9X.