This is why the Win-9x/ME forum on MSFN.org is a piece of shit

[98 Guy]

The little prick moderators on MSFN.org have this rule, and they even
apply it to windows-9x/me, even though Micro$haft could give 2 shits
about those old versions of Windoze any more.

The chicken-shit retards that run msfn don't realize that the only way
they're going to GROW THE MEMBERSHIP of people that participate in the
win-9x/me forums at this point (if that's even possible) is to talk and
post openly and freely about the following:

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» No Illegal/Copyrighted Software Discussion

1.a This is not a warez site! Links/Requests to warez and/or illegal
material (e.g., cracks, serials, etc.) will not be tolerated. Discussion
of circumventing WGA/activation/timebombs/license restrictions, use of
keygens, or any other illegal activity, including, but not limited to,
requests for help where pirated software is being used or being
discussed, will also not be tolerated. Offenders may be banned on first
violation.
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So for example, posting this list of win-98 product keys would be banned
and deleted on msfn.org:

JH2JK - M8TKW - JH4GD - 7763W - 7JYQ6
JF7XF - TRMXP - 3GHDT - QJF7H - 96CK6
VXWXH - K7XYD - BYG89 - DG4DX - KQV3G
HGHPB - M6ZXF - 4F9F7 - RHMM4 - CTWD6
W8T8P - ZTZVQ - HTVF8 - KPQMH - Z4GQD
HWFQM - G4XB7 - KQMQV - HF39R - QWWVT
VPKVK - HPDHZ - HTDDC - BDRDM - 923FG
BC3PP - 88VCY - JPCD6 - 6TRXV - B8GRG
V97VV - T4QTX - Y7QHT - FR9VR - TV7M6
PQWQ7 - PBC28 - 9CPCD - VKGQT - FWM4T
TVMFM - GBMS8 - 8VB97 - B97YG - KT84G
T8R6G - GJMMX - TYQKV - V6YHD - VX77T
V8WYX - PCYMQ - BMRT9 - ZZRC3 - H3TMT
CPMG2 - C8P7Q - 8H98J - GKWD9 - RP66T
WQ92D - MDYQY - DMTGB - CHMVB - G4CK6
FB2CB - Q6V9P - GWB6Q - G8KF7 - 6YQF6
QQ3PT - 3D3Q6 - WX7RM - 9QBPK - Y8RWT
FD9X6 - CRWRK - DJ9CY - XXF99 - KQ4CT
FXFXV - GBMH6 - R9HK3 - KVXBH - MYMY6
FDPY3 - D6T29 - XM3FY - JPYCF - 3D4FT
TQJ37 - 2HPPK - WT4VW - BHMXD - 3P9G6
BCWXW - VHXFD - YF4RM - H2TMX - 7YHQT
VFMGM - 7MB24 - P9RWK - 38KV2 - 6KJG6
HTXHX - JXKGG - MY3WW - PPXKW - MPJDG
MVPCQ - M8H34 - TKYJX - YY98H - BJVV6
HKJJF - 93B3Y - K2KCD - M8H7B - G3XWG

Even discussing how to incorporate a product key in an automatic
(unattended) installation script or discussing how to remove/bypass the
EULA agreement page during installation for win-98 makes them nervous.
Chicken shit dinks.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by 98 Guy
The little prick moderators on MSFN.org have this rule, and they even
apply it to windows-9x/me, even though Micro$haft could give 2 shits
about those old versions of Windoze any more.

Why are you even bothered about what they do in their own swimming pool?
You've got here to play/post in. Railing here is going to make them
change their ways as much as complaining about them will make North
Korea change theirs, so why do you keep on about it? It's just boring
for the rest of us (assuming there _are_ any other than you and me
here!). I haven't killfiled because I remember having seen useful stuff
from you.
[]

[Bill in Co]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by 98 Guy
The little prick moderators on MSFN.org have this rule, and they even
apply it to windows-9x/me, even though Micro$haft could give 2 shits
about those old versions of Windoze any more.

Why are you even bothered about what they do in their own swimming pool?
You've got here to play/post in. Railing here is going to make them
change their ways as much as complaining about them will make North
Korea change theirs, so why do you keep on about it? It's just boring
for the rest of us (assuming there _are_ any other than you and me
here!). I haven't killfiled because I remember having seen useful stuff
from you.
[]

Perhaps wisdom comes with age and maturity. Although these days, I'm not so
sure anymore. :-)

[Stanley Daniel de Liver]

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 00:39:09 +0100, Bill in Co

Post by Bill in Co

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by 98 Guy
The little prick moderators on MSFN.org have this rule, and they even
apply it to windows-9x/me, even though Micro$haft could give 2 shits
about those old versions of Windoze any more.

Why are you even bothered about what they do in their own swimming pool?
You've got here to play/post in. Railing here is going to make them
change their ways as much as complaining about them will make North
Korea change theirs, so why do you keep on about it? It's just boring
for the rest of us (assuming there _are_ any other than you and me
here!). I haven't killfiled because I remember having seen useful stuff
from you.
[]

Perhaps wisdom comes with age and maturity. Although these days, I'm not so
sure anymore. :-)

Yeahbut winders98 is, like, 15 years old, like, innit, eh granpa?

[Kenn Caesius]

I use a 17-year-old computer and I even I do not use windows 98.

---End of message---

[98 Guy]

Post by Kenn Caesius
I use a 17-year-old computer and I even I do not use windows 98.

That's your loss...

[Kenn Caesius]

Perhaps I would apologize for remarks because perhaps I might be able to
sympathize with the 98 Guy because I still have one computer with
Windows 98SE that I keep around for the older pieces of software that
will not run on anything else.

However, user J.P. Gulliver (John) expressed my sentiment regarding
Microsoft's stigmatization for earlier versions of its software.
Microsoft ended support for windows 98SE years ago and few computer
users now have any knowledge about it beyond the wikipedia article so 98
guy's gripe for "mainstream" support is almost laughable. By the way, I
think that we are all in agreement that Windows ME was a terrible OS,
right?

I think that for better or worse, if you still use anything but the
latest OS by Microsoft, you are anything but mainstream.

---End of message---

[Bill in Co]

Post by Kenn Caesius
Perhaps I would apologize for remarks because perhaps I might be able to
sympathize with the 98 Guy because I still have one computer with
Windows 98SE that I keep around for the older pieces of software that
will not run on anything else.
However, user J.P. Gulliver (John) expressed my sentiment regarding
Microsoft's stigmatization for earlier versions of its software.
Microsoft ended support for windows 98SE years ago and few computer
users now have any knowledge about it beyond the wikipedia article so 98
guy's gripe for "mainstream" support is almost laughable. By the way, I
think that we are all in agreement that Windows ME was a terrible OS,
right?
I think that for better or worse, if you still use anything but the
latest OS by Microsoft, you are anything but mainstream.
---End of message---

It will be interesting to see just how well Windows 8 (with all its tiles,
etc) does. From the little I've read, many (esp. desktop computer) folks
aren't too happy with it. I believe it was designed as a "compromise"
between desktop and tablet usage Apple (I think) keeps their two OS's
distinct and separate (one OS designed for desktops, one OS designed for
tablets). As I recall, MS did recently come out with an update that at
least brings back the Start Menu for Win 8 users (Win 8.1?).

As for me, I'm more than content with XP, and plan to stay there. :-)

[Bill in Co]

Post by Kenn Caesius
I use a 17-year-old computer and I even I do not use windows 98.
---End of message---

Interesting. So what do you use?

[Kenn Caesius]

I use a custom-build with 200 MHz Pentium processor, 256MB RAM, and 20GB
HDD, which is the maximum the Aopen AP5T motherboard can take. I
installed windows 2000 Professional and stuck with it ever since 2003.
Before that I was using Windows 95a, I think.


---End of message---

[Bill in Co]

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 00:39:09 +0100, Bill in Co

Post by Bill in Co

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by 98 Guy
The little prick moderators on MSFN.org have this rule, and they even
apply it to windows-9x/me, even though Micro$haft could give 2 shits
about those old versions of Windoze any more.

Why are you even bothered about what they do in their own swimming pool?
You've got here to play/post in. Railing here is going to make them
change their ways as much as complaining about them will make North
Korea change theirs, so why do you keep on about it? It's just boring
for the rest of us (assuming there _are_ any other than you and me
here!). I haven't killfiled because I remember having seen useful stuff
from you.
[]

Perhaps wisdom comes with age and maturity. Although these days, I'm not so
sure anymore. :-)

Yeahbut winders98 is, like, 15 years old, like, innit, eh granpa?

I can't remember now. I'm still trying to recall which filaments worked
best in our incandescent light bulbs, but Edison left the workroom.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <w5CdnXVK-***@earthlink.com>, Bill in Co
<***@earthlink.net> writes:
[]

Post by Bill in Co
I can't remember now. I'm still trying to recall which filaments worked
best in our incandescent light bulbs, but Edison left the workroom.

Wolfram ones turned out best. (-: (Though even those are being made
obsolete by the next version: they're getting hard to find here [UK]
now, like Windows 7 is!)

[Bill in Co]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]

Post by Bill in Co
I can't remember now. I'm still trying to recall which filaments worked
best in our incandescent light bulbs, but Edison left the workroom.

Wolfram ones turned out best. (-: (Though even those are being made
obsolete by the next version: they're getting hard to find here [UK]
now, like Windows 7 is!)

By Job, I think you're right! :-)

Over here, they are phasing out 100W incandescents (and I imagine 60W will
follow soon).

The CFLs have come down in price, and aren't too bad (and are certainly more
energy efficient, of course). But one thing annoying about them is their
start-up or warm-up time. But such is progress...

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Bill in Co

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Post by Bill in Co
I can't remember now. I'm still trying to recall which filaments worked
best in our incandescent light bulbs, but Edison left the workroom.

Wolfram ones turned out best. (-: (Though even those are being made
obsolete by the next version: they're getting hard to find here [UK]
now, like Windows 7 is!)

By Job, I think you're right! :-)
Over here, they are phasing out 100W incandescents (and I imagine 60W will
follow soon).

Here, they for some strange reason did the "pearl" ones first (diffused
glass - i. e. you could still get the clear ones for a while).

Post by Bill in Co
The CFLs have come down in price, and aren't too bad (and are certainly more
energy efficient, of course). But one thing annoying about them is their
start-up or warm-up time. But such is progress...

That (the start-up time) does improve as technology progresses (though
remains). Here, CFLs got so cheap that they were (literally) giving them
away - but now they're the only widely-available option, they've shot
back up again, especially if you want anything other than the standard,
such as a spotlight bulb.
For more or less instant startup, and I think even better efficiency,
LED are best - but still cost a lot. (Presumably at least partly because
they know they'll not sell many as they last ages too.)

[Stanley Daniel de Liver]

On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:21:46 +0100, Bill in Co

Post by Bill in Co

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]

Post by Bill in Co
I can't remember now. I'm still trying to recall which filaments worked
best in our incandescent light bulbs, but Edison left the workroom.

Wolfram ones turned out best. (-: (Though even those are being made
obsolete by the next version: they're getting hard to find here [UK]
now, like Windows 7 is!)

By Job, I think you're right! :-)
Over here, they are phasing out 100W incandescents (and I imagine 60W will
follow soon).
The CFLs have come down in price, and aren't too bad (and are certainly more
energy efficient, of course). But one thing annoying about them is their
start-up or warm-up time. But such is progress...

Skip straight to LEDs. (this may require rewiring you house for 12V, but
hey, that's the cost of progress!)

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <***@dell3100>, Stanley Daniel de Liver
<***@127.0.0.1> writes:
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Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
Yeahbut winders98 is, like, 15 years old, like, innit, eh granpa?

(So why are you reading these newsgroups?)
Anyway, I have this fine Scotch which is ...

(actually I don't - I don't like whisky; but new is not necessarily
better, and old is not necessarily worse.)

[Stanley Daniel de Liver]

On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:25:43 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
Yeahbut winders98 is, like, 15 years old, like, innit, eh granpa?

(So why are you reading these newsgroups?)

I was like putting on my best 15yr-old impression.
I still have a few venerable apps from w98 days.

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Anyway, I have this fine Scotch which is ...
(actually I don't - I don't like whisky; but new is not necessarily
better, and old is not necessarily worse.)

[Auric__]

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:25:43 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
Yeahbut winders98 is, like, 15 years old, like, innit, eh granpa?

(So why are you reading these newsgroups?)

I was like putting on my best 15yr-old impression.
I still have a few venerable apps from w98 days.

I still use a few apps from the Win3.x days. Shrug.

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
new is not necessarily better, and old is not necessarily worse.

A sentiment I often repeat.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Post by Auric__

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:25:43 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
Yeahbut winders98 is, like, 15 years old, like, innit, eh granpa?

(So why are you reading these newsgroups?)

I was like putting on my best 15yr-old impression.
I still have a few venerable apps from w98 days.

I still use a few apps from the Win3.x days. Shrug.

And DOS. I use XTREE GOLD - and its editor 1word - to edit three files
(my quotes file that goes into my signatures, and some HTML I use for
printing Dilberts); I think the keystrokes are remembered by my arm and
hand, rather than my main brain.

Post by Auric__

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
new is not necessarily better, and old is not necessarily worse.

A sentiment I often repeat.

(-:

[Bill in Co]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by Auric__

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:25:43 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
Yeahbut winders98 is, like, 15 years old, like, innit, eh granpa?

(So why are you reading these newsgroups?)

I was like putting on my best 15yr-old impression.
I still have a few venerable apps from w98 days.

I still use a few apps from the Win3.x days. Shrug.

And DOS. I use XTREE GOLD - and its editor 1word - to edit three files
(my quotes file that goes into my signatures, and some HTML I use for
printing Dilberts); I think the keystrokes are remembered by my arm and
hand, rather than my main brain.

Post by Auric__

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
new is not necessarily better, and old is not necessarily worse.

A sentiment I often repeat.

--
Never be led astray onto the path of virtue.

To be candid, I've been remiss, and haven't dipped into DOS for several
months now. Once in awhile I feel the urge, however, and enjoy that simple
text screen - and working at the command line. :-)

As for most "updates" and "update messages" - not in my pool!
"New is not necessarily better" is a severe understatement, IMHO. :-)

Oh, and as I said in the other group, regarding that cute last line of
yours:
"Never be led astray onto the path of virtue."

Alas, I don't think you need to worry too much about that one these days,
unfortunately :-)

[Auric__]

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by Auric__

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:25:43 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John)

Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]

Post by Stanley Daniel de Liver
Yeahbut winders98 is, like, 15 years old, like, innit, eh granpa?

(So why are you reading these newsgroups?)

I was like putting on my best 15yr-old impression.
I still have a few venerable apps from w98 days.

I still use a few apps from the Win3.x days. Shrug.

And DOS. I use XTREE GOLD - and its editor 1word - to edit three files
(my quotes file that goes into my signatures, and some HTML I use for
printing Dilberts); I think the keystrokes are remembered by my arm and
hand, rather than my main brain.

I actually switched from Xtree to Norton Commander clones some years back. I
don't remember what it was that got me to do it... probably it was while I
was running Linux full-time and found that UnixTree just wasn't the same...

(I tried XtreeWin, but something about it rubbed me wrong. IIRC it was (at
least in part) due to the fact that I couldn't change it to use standard
Windows shortcut keys.)

[Hot-Text]

Post by 98 Guy
The little prick moderators on MSFN.org have this rule, and they even
apply it to windows-9x/me, even though Micro$haft could give 2 shits
about those old versions of Windoze any more.
The chicken-shit retards that run msfn don't realize that the only way
they're going to GROW THE MEMBERSHIP of people that participate in the
win-9x/me forums at this point (if that's even possible) is to talk and
» No Illegal/Copyrighted Software Discussion
1.a This is not a warez site! Links/Requests to warez and/or illegal
material (e.g., cracks, serials, etc.) will not be tolerated. Discussion
of circumventing WGA/activation/timebombs/license restrictions, use of
keygens, or any other illegal activity, including, but not limited to,
requests for help where pirated software is being used or being
discussed, will also not be tolerated. Offenders may be banned on first
violation.
So for example, posting this list of win-98 product keys would be banned

X-Complaints-To: ***@aioe.org
Can get you banned and deleted on aioe.org too
Would you like to see how it Works

I know you a Wise Ass And
You have a New IP in a
New York Minute

So banning you would do know good!

Post by 98 Guy
Even discussing how to incorporate a product key in an automatic
(unattended) installation script or discussing how to remove/bypass the
EULA agreement page during installation for win-98 makes them nervous.
Chicken shit dinks.