clx-3185 printer driver

[Leslie Danks]

Greetings:

I run Win98 as a virtual machine in VMware and have just bought a Samsung
CLX-3185 multi-function printer. To my horror, Windows98 is no longer
supported and there appears to be no printer driver available. Does anyone
have any suggestions?

[MotoFox]

And it came to pass that Leslie Danks delivered the following message unto
the people, saying~

Post by Leslie Danks
I run Win98 as a virtual machine in VMware and have just bought a Samsung
CLX-3185 multi-function printer. To my horror, Windows98 is no longer
supported and there appears to be no printer driver available. Does anyone
have any suggestions?

This is what I've done with my own 98 machines. One that I have at my
Mum's place doesn't have a printer attached, and her printer (an HP
Office Jet 6500) doesn't have 98 drivers available either, yet this method
works quite well. It walkthrough assumes your machine and the
printer have drives and support for memory cards/cartridges.

It is actually a pretty straightforward process, ergo, let's see how
overly complicated I can make it sound:

1) Download and install Kernelex if you haven't already.
(http://kernelex.sourceforge.com )

2) Export the file to a PDF using PDF Creator (get it from
http://www.pdfforge.org/pdfcreator . WARNING: follow the installation
instructions VERY carefully; you'll find a few nasty little surprises on
your system/VM image if you aren't paying attention:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDFcreator#Adware_toolbar_controversy )

3) "Print" to the "printer" that was set up when you installed PDF
Creator. Follow the directions on your screen. This will result in a nice,
neat PDF file that you can view with PDF Exchange Viewer (or if you're
feeling truly daring, Acrobat.)

At this point you could copy the resulting PDF file to the host drive your
VM-Ware is running on and just print it directly using whatever PDF reader
software you have installed. But what if you're on an actual 98 machine
and don't have a printer connected? Read on...

4) Download and install the PDF Exchange Viewer
(http://www.tracker-software.com/downloads/PDFX_Vwr_Port.zip ). Don't
worry about it being the function-limited "trial" version; it still does
what we need it to do here. PDFXV can export the pages of a PDF to JPEG
and many other raster image formats. (This is why you downloaded and
installed Kernelex in step 1; PDFXV doesn't run on 98 "out of the box".)

5) Export the pages of your PDF to JPEG files. Start PDFXV, open the file
directly or with Alt-F, O then select File (Alt F), Export (Ctl R), then
Export to Image (Enter). In the dialogue box that appears, select the
following:
- Page range: All (or if you want to do just a few pages,
there's a field to enter that into, called "Pages")
- Image type: "JPEG-Joint Photographic Exports Group" (it defaults to
"BMP-Windows Bitmap File")
- Destination directory (I hate calling them "folders", always have):
whichever directory you want to save them to
- Export mode: "Save each page to a separate single image file"
- Resolution: 600 DPI

Note that you can also use 1200 or 2400 DPI resolution if you need to, and
I think you can also manually specify different settings (e.g. 900 DPI)
but personally 600 seems to be plenty sufficient. Some printers seem to
choke on anything bigger than 900 DPI. Also, I've found anything less than
600 DPI tends to look like crap on this crappy HP (Y.R.M.V.)

6) Hit "Export..." (Alt X) and watch PDFXV work its magic. This process
will create a bunch of sequentially-numbered JPEG files in the directory
you chose in the dialogue box, so it's best to save them to a new, empty
directory.

I don't remember for certain (admittedly it's been quite a while since
I've actually had to print anything myself) but I believe PDF Creator
can also be set to export directly to JPEG files instead of PDF, thus
enabling you to skip steps 4-6.

7) Copy the directory of files to a memory card/cartridge.

8) Insert the card/cartridge into the printer and print the JPEG files
from it as you would if they were made on a camera.

Hope this helps.

[Leslie Danks]

Post by MotoFox
And it came to pass that Leslie Danks delivered the following message unto
the people, saying~

Post by Leslie Danks
I run Win98 as a virtual machine in VMware and have just bought a Samsung
CLX-3185 multi-function printer. To my horror, Windows98 is no longer
supported and there appears to be no printer driver available. Does
anyone have any suggestions?

This is what I've done with my own 98 machines. One that I have at my
Mum's place doesn't have a printer attached, and her printer (an HP
Office Jet 6500) doesn't have 98 drivers available either, yet this method
works quite well. It walkthrough assumes your machine and the
printer have drives and support for memory cards/cartridges.

[snipped details]

Post by MotoFox
Hope this helps.

Thanks for all that. I shall be away for a week but will follow it up when I
return.

[Hot-Text]

MotoFox

Office Jet 6500 < LOOL
I running a
HP Officejet 7210 All-in-one
on a Windows 98 SE
With out Kernelex
For all you had to do was go the the HP website
and install the Office Jet 6500 Software and would have work.....

Now as run Samsung CLX-3185 multi-function printer on
Win 98 as a virtual machine in VMware with a Kernelex

Can Kernelex say that his Win 98 is a Win 7 or a XP sp3

No .it can not do that........

For Samsung CLX-3185 need a XP sp3 or better
to run the Software to the Drives...........

[98 Guy]

Post by Leslie Danks
I run Win98 as a virtual machine in VMware and have just bought a
Samsung CLX-3185 multi-function printer. To my horror, Windows98
is no longer supported and there appears to be no printer driver
available. Does anyone have any suggestions?

First off, I'm cross-posting this to the group you should have included
in your original distribution:

microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

If you could, I wonder if you could explain why you chose to only post
this to alt.windows98, given that the microsoft group has about 10 to 50
times the amount of activity.

Second, I'll give you a realistic alternative to Moto Fox's incredibly
tedious "print to PDF file and then use something else to print the PDF
to the printer" solution.

Click on this samsumg URL (re-assemble into a single line):

http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/computer-peripherals/printers-multifunction/
color-laser-multifunction-printers-faxes/CLX-3185FN/XSS/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=support

and take note of this "add printer" Win 2000/XP/2003/Vista/2008/Win 7
driver for your printer:

-> Print Driver,(Add Printer) 30 Sep, 2011 12.06 mb

The direct link for that is:

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/DR/201109/20110930152356247/CLX_3180PRINTER.zip

Unpack that file. Navigate to the i386 folder and take note of the .inf
file residing there. Getting win-98 to recognize that file will be your
best bet to being able to print to that printer.

Now, at this point I have to ask how the printer is connected to your
computer. Running win-98 as a virtual machine process has complications
as far as how it can interact with attached hardware, particularly USB.

I suggest that if not already the case, that you connect the printer to
your computer via it's ethernet connection. Then in the win-98 control
panel, tell it to add a new printer, point to the network, and give it
the IP address of the printer. Hopefully win-98 will see it and then
ask for a driver, at which time you will point it to the above-mentioned
INF file.

If you can't get win-98 to see the printer via ethernet, you can try
USB, and then show it the INF file. If none of this works, then you
either don't have a proper ethernet connection to the printer, or you
don't know the printer's IP address, or the fact that win-98 is running
in a virtual machine is the problem.

I personally will never run win-98 in a virtual machine because I have
always managed to find all the drivers necessary to run win-98 natively
on the hardware of my choice.

Now, I'll give you one final option.

There *are* win-98 drivers for the Samsung CLX-3160FN printer. With any
luck, they might work for your 3185 printer.

See these links:

http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/print-solutions/print-multifunctions-copiers/colour-multifunction/
CLX-3160FN/XSA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=support

scan driver:

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=UNI_NZ&CttFileID=2046817&CDCttType=
DR&ModelType=N&ModelName=CLX-3160FN&VPath=DR/200810/20081028100838906/CLX-3160_Scan.exe

print driver:

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=UNI_NZ&CttFileID=2046808&CDCttType=
DR&ModelType=N&ModelName=CLX-3160FN&VPath=DR/200810/20081028100215125/CLX-3160_Print_98ME.exe

Note that I had to add a carriage return when posting those links
because of the line-length restriction I have. Re-assemble those links
into a single line before trying them.

[MotoFox]

And it came to pass that 98 Guy delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

First off, I'm cross-posting this to the group you should have included in
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
If you could, I wonder if you could explain why you chose to only post
this to alt.windows98, given that the Microsoft group has about 10 to 50
times the amount of activity.

He doesn't need to explain his reasons to you. Nobody needs to
explain their reasons to you. Besides, there's absolutely nothing wrong
with posting on alt.windows98.

For Khrist's sake, man, what do you want, a huge public apology every time
anybody posts to a.w98? Rack off.

Second, I'll give you a realistic alternative to Moto Fox's incredibly
tedious "print to PDF file and then use something else to print the PDF
to the printer" solution.

Oh yeah, that's right, I forget that you have the Ultimate Final Say over
every single post anybody makes on Usenet regarding 98. *slaps forhead*
Sorry, my bad. Shall I bow down and kiss your feet while I'm at it, Your
Highness?

(And in case you didn't notice, there's no space in "MotoFox". Duh.)

[MotoFox]

And it came to pass that MotoFox delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

Post by MotoFox
And it came to pass that 98 Guy delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

Post by 98 Guy
First off, I'm cross-posting this to the group you should have included
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
If you could, I wonder if you could explain why you chose to only post
this to alt.windows98, given that the Microsoft group has about 10 to 50
times the amount of activity.

He doesn't need to explain his reasons to you. Nobody needs to explain
their reasons to you. Besides, there's absolutely nothing wrong with
posting on alt.windows98.

Oh and guess what, genius? In your over-eagerness to cross-post to
m.p.w.g-d, you didn't bother to re-post either Leslie's or my post, so
almost nobody reading there has any context! Pretty brilliant, yeah?

[98 Guy]

Post by MotoFox
And it came to pass that MotoFox delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

Post by MotoFox
And it came to pass that 98 Guy delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

Post by 98 Guy
First off, I'm cross-posting this to the group you should have included
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
If you could, I wonder if you could explain why you chose to only post
this to alt.windows98, given that the Microsoft group has about 10 to
50 times the amount of activity.

He doesn't need to explain his reasons to you. Nobody needs to explain
their reasons to you. Besides, there's absolutely nothing wrong with
posting on alt.windows98.

Oh and guess what, genius? In your over-eagerness to cross-post to
m.p.w.g-d, you didn't bother to re-post either Leslie's or my post, so
almost nobody reading there has any context! Pretty brilliant, yeah?

Okay, okay, I'm sorry, alright? I was pretty fucked up earlier when I did
that. Need another hit. Got some dope I can smoke?

Ohh, yeah.

[The Real 98 Guy]

Post by 98 Guy
Ohh, yeah.

Just for the record - that was not me (the real 98-guy) posting that
forged response (at 2 am EST).

But who-ever did do it forged the headers pretty well, including the
X-mailer line.

But they naturally can't forge the Message ID, which will stay the same
so long as my IP address doesn't change (which I don't believe it has).

[98 Guy]

Post by The Real 98 Guy

Post by 98 Guy
Ohh, yeah.

Just for the record - that was not me (the real 98-guy) posting that
forged response (at 2 am EST).

Also, you can see this Klown's test posting in alt test about 5 minutes
before he posted here.

Curious to see MotoFaux posting his diarrhea about 10 to 15 minutes
prior...

[MotoFox]

And it came to pass that 98 Guy delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

Post by 98 Guy
Curious to see MotoFaux posting his diarrhea about 10 to 15 minutes
prior...

98 Guy: *Boo Hoo Someone forged my identity! WAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!*

So, another idiot out there doesn't have anything better to do than forge
a post 10 to 15 minutes after I responded to your prosodic diarrhoea. Big
deal, happens all the time on Usenet. Besides, I have better things to do
than nymshift and impersonate every id10t I encounter on the Internetz.

And just in case you've been living under a rock for the last 30+ years,
you'll find that the two of us aren't the only ones who use Usenet.

=== OR ===

Maybe it really WAS you, you have another identity that you post under
(stored under a different news client on another machine, maybe?) and you
did post using it, but you were just trippin' too much to realise it?

It's okay to publicly admit you have a drug problem. By doing so you are
completing the first step in the recovery process.

Good luck to you.

[MotoFox]

And just F.Y.I., "faux" is pronounced "foe", not "fox".

Methinx you don't know French.

[98 Guy]

Post by MotoFox
Oh and guess what, genius? In your over-eagerness to cross-post to
m.p.w.g-d, you didn't bother to re-post either Leslie's or my post,
so almost nobody reading there has any context! Pretty brilliant,

Look you Klown.

I quoted the OP's question in its entirety in my cross-posted response,
so anyone reading it HAS THE FULL CONTEXT. It's really strange why you
either didn't see that or understand that.

And as for re-posting your friggen 10-page solution - sorry, I won't
pollute these groups by doing that.

If you're so hurt that I didn't; if I dammaged your ego by not
re-posting your "solution" - then why don't you do it yourself? That's
not my job. Be satisfied that I even alluded to the fact that you gave
a response, and encapsulated it in a concise way.

[MotoFox]

And it came to pass that 98 Guy crapped out the following diarrhoeic
prosody unto the weary masses, saying~

Look

<snip>

way.

And with that, yet another closed-minded egotistical jackass, who seems
completely indifferent to ideas other than his own, becomes a casualty of
my killfile.

*plonk*

[000-111-000]

"MotoFox"

Post by MotoFox
And it came to pass that MotoFox delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

Post by MotoFox
And it came to pass that 98 Guy delivered the following message unto the
people, saying~

And it came to pass that 98 Guy delivered himself the following new Troll,
Moto Fox .....

Boy do you miss MEB

[000-111-000]

Mr. MotoFox

I have the Ultimate Final Say over
every single post anybody makes on Usenet regarding Windows 98!

[MotoFox]

And it came to pass that 000-111-000 delivered the following message unto
the people, saying~

Post by 000-111-000
Mr. MotoFox
I have the Ultimate Final Say over
every single post anybody makes on Usenet regarding Windows 98!

F off, Hot-Spam.

*plonk*

[Hot-Text]

Post by 000-111-000
Mr. MotoFox
I have the Ultimate Final Say over
every single post anybody makes on Usenet regarding Windows 98!

We is if you do,
but I do not believe so!

[Leslie Danks]

Post by 98 Guy

Post by Leslie Danks
I run Win98 as a virtual machine in VMware and have just bought a
Samsung CLX-3185 multi-function printer. To my horror, Windows98
is no longer supported and there appears to be no printer driver
available. Does anyone have any suggestions?

First off, I'm cross-posting this to the group you should have included
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
If you could, I wonder if you could explain why you chose to only post
this to alt.windows98, given that the microsoft group has about 10 to 50
times the amount of activity.

Since you ask, I have never posted to a Windows group before and this one
seemed appropriate.

Post by 98 Guy
Second, I'll give you a realistic alternative to Moto Fox's incredibly
tedious "print to PDF file and then use something else to print the PDF
to the printer" solution.
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/computer-peripherals/printers-

multifunction/

Post by 98 Guy
color-laser-multifunction-printers-

faxes/CLX-3185FN/XSS/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=support

Post by 98 Guy
and take note of this "add printer" Win 2000/XP/2003/Vista/2008/Win 7
-> Print Driver,(Add Printer) 30 Sep, 2011 12.06 mb

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/DR/201109/20110930152356247/CLX_3180PRINTER.zip

Post by 98 Guy
Unpack that file. Navigate to the i386 folder and take note of the .inf
file residing there. Getting win-98 to recognize that file will be your
best bet to being able to print to that printer.
Now, at this point I have to ask how the printer is connected to your
computer. Running win-98 as a virtual machine process has complications
as far as how it can interact with attached hardware, particularly USB.

I do everything I can with Linux. Windows 98, which I need occasionally, is
running in a VMware virtual machine on a Linux host. The Linux host is part
of my LAN. The printer is connected to a laptop in the LAN that functions
(primarily) as a print server offering 2 queues: one queue using the
CLX-3185 Linux driver and the second queue "raw"--i.e. for sending already
formatted print jobs. All the real hosts on the LAN are running Linux and
send their print jobs over the LAN to this laptop, which then prints them
via a USB link to the CLX-3185 (USB is all it has--no direct ethernet).

Printing from the W98 virtual machine has always been straightforward for
various printers. The printer driver is placed somewhere convenient on the
virtual machine and then the "New Printer" procedure is carried out. The new
printer is told where the driver is and is told to send print jobs to the
"raw" print queue. End of story.

Post by 98 Guy
I suggest that if not already the case, that you connect the printer to
your computer via it's ethernet connection. Then in the win-98 control
panel, tell it to add a new printer, point to the network, and give it
the IP address of the printer. Hopefully win-98 will see it and then
ask for a driver, at which time you will point it to the above-mentioned
INF file.
If you can't get win-98 to see the printer via ethernet, you can try
USB, and then show it the INF file. If none of this works, then you
either don't have a proper ethernet connection to the printer, or you
don't know the printer's IP address, or the fact that win-98 is running
in a virtual machine is the problem.
I personally will never run win-98 in a virtual machine because I have
always managed to find all the drivers necessary to run win-98 natively
on the hardware of my choice.

The Win98 I am running is genuine and came with a PC I bought about 15 (?)
years ago. VMware provides an emulated PC on which you can install the
operating systen of your choice.

Post by 98 Guy
Now, I'll give you one final option.
There *are* win-98 drivers for the Samsung CLX-3160FN printer. With any
luck, they might work for your 3185 printer.
http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/print-solutions/print-multifunctions-

copiers/colour-multifunction/

Post by 98 Guy
CLX-3160FN/XSA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=support

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=UNI_NZ&CttFileID=2046817&CDCttType=
DR&ModelType=N&ModelName=CLX-3160FN&VPath=DR/200810/20081028100838906/CLX-3160_Scan.exe
http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=UNI_NZ&CttFileID=2046808&CDCttType=
DR&ModelType=N&ModelName=CLX-3160FN&VPath=DR/200810/20081028100215125/CLX-3160_Print_98ME.exe

Post by 98 Guy
Note that I had to add a carriage return when posting those links
because of the line-length restriction I have. Re-assemble those links
into a single line before trying them.

Thanks for all the info. I shall be away for a week or so and won't have
time to follow that all up in detail before I go. Will report back later.

[MotoFox]

And it came to pass that Leslie Danks delivered the following message unto
the people, saying~

Post by Leslie Danks
Since you ask, I have never posted to a Windows group before and this one
seemed appropriate.

It's okay; you can continue to post here. 98 Guy seems to think he owns
everything that anybody writes about Windows 98, including where (possibly
even when) people can do so, but he knows he's just kidding himself. In
fact, please do feel free to plonk the troll like I just did.

[Leslie Danks]

Post by MotoFox
And it came to pass that Leslie Danks delivered the following message unto
the people, saying~

Post by Leslie Danks
Since you ask, I have never posted to a Windows group before and this one
seemed appropriate.

It's okay; you can continue to post here.

Thank-you for your concern, but I am familiar with usenet, and with the fact
that no-one owns it, and with the principle of freedom of speech. The kind
of robust banter one meets here on occasion only makes me laugh--even if I
am the target.

Post by MotoFox
98 Guy seems to think he owns
everything that anybody writes about Windows 98, including where (possibly
even when) people can do so, but he knows he's just kidding himself. In
fact, please do feel free to plonk the troll like I just did.

[MotoFox]

And it came to pass that Leslie Danks delivered the following message unto
the people, saying~

Post by Leslie Danks
Thank-you for your concern, but I am familiar with usenet, and with the
fact that no-one owns it, and with the principle of freedom of speech. The
kind of robust banter one meets here on occasion only makes me laugh--even
if I am the target.

Yup, sometimes that's all you can do, kinda' like CB radio. I've been
around Usenet on and off for going on about 15 years myself.

(Have you been around to 24hoursupport.helpdesk lately? THERE'S a piece of
work....)

[Leslie Danks]

[ stuff snipped]

Post by Leslie Danks
Thanks for all the info. I shall be away for a week or so and won't have
time to follow that all up in detail before I go. Will report back later.

FYI and to finish off:

I found

www.mitsdrivers.com/pages_clx-3185-driver.html

which allegedly includes a driver for Win98. When I downloaded it it turned
out to be an exe program called "DriverDetective", which obviously has the
task of downloading the actual driver based on the operating system at hand.
When I ran this from my virtual Win98 machine I got an error--illegal
operation or somesuch. I then connected to the Internet directly from Win98
(usually I keep it away for obvious reasons) and tried to download the
"driver" from there using an ancient version of Netscape. I got some sort of
download error. I then tried to install a Win98 version of Firefox, but that
also failed. Presumably the VM Win98 is not as compatible as it might be.

Then the obvious workaround occurred to me. If I'm working on a file in the
VM, all I have to do is save it (no need to close it), switch to a Linux
workspace, reopen the file using LibreOffice and print it from there. Then I
can close the file and return to the Win98 workspace to make the corrections
I need for the errors I find proof-reading the hard copy. Problem solved.

Thanks to you and Motofox for your input.